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2009 DRAFT PICKS
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Rd Sel# Player Pos. School Jay's ranking Jay's draft value
1 29 Hakeem Nicks WR North Carolina #3 WR Round 1

Player who will have a better NFL career than many drafted higher than him.

I felt a lot more comfortable with Nicks on this list prior to him showing up heavy for his Pro Day and running a disappointing 4.43 in the short shuttle.  Nicks has good moves and good hands.  His speed is adequate, but he will develop into a reliable, go-to receiver; a player his quarterback will look for on critical third downs.
2 45 Clint Sintim OLB Virginia #10 OLB Round 3

Senior Bowl practice comment

This 3-4 rush OLB, looked fine in pass rushing drills, made a good play versus the run in 11 on 11's , but looked bad in pass coverage.

ONE ON ONE BLOCKING DRILLS SCORED BY JAY GOLDBERG

2 - 2 Loadhold 1-1   Fulton 1-1
2 60 William Beatty OT Connecticut #3 OT Round 1

Senior Bowl practice comment

Beatty's 6-6 is better than it appears.  This is a drill that favors the defense and he was up against some good speed rushers.

ONE ON ONE BLOCKING DRILLS SCORED BY JAY GOLDBERG

6 - 6 English 3-3   Brown 2-2   Barwin 1-1

Senior Bowl Game

I was very very impressed with Beatty.  He blocked well in the run game and the pass game.  Beatty is a prospect to keep an eye on.

Player who will have a better NFL career than many drafted higher than him.

Beatty may be the most physically gifted tackle at the top of the draft.  He needs some work in the weight room, but will be one of the best tackles to come out of this draft class.  Beatty is one of the better run blocking left tackle prospects in the draft and more than held his own against speed rushers during the one-on-one drills at the Senior Bowl.
3 85 Ramses Barden WR Cal Poly #17 WR Round 4

Senior Bowl practice comment

Big receiver who showed good hands, but looked to have trouble separating from defensive backs.
3 100 Travis Beckum TE Wisconsin #7 TE Round 3
4 129 Andre Brown RB North Carolina State #5 RB Round 2

Senior Bowl practice comment

Brown showed quickness, good speed for a big back, and YAC.  He was quick thru the hole in 11 on 11's.  He also showed a willingness and toughness in the one-on-one blocking drills.

ONE ON ONE BLOCKING DRILLS SCORED BY JAY GOLDBERG

2 - 3 Beckwith 1-1   R Johnson 1-0   Palmer 0-1   Maualuga 0-1

Senior Bowl Game

Brown's stat line from the game is deceiving.  He did have a nice run on a screen pass showing decent speed.  However in the run game it was the little things that stood out.   For example, a fourth down conversion when there was not really a hole to run through, a one yard TD, the ability for a bigger back to bounce a run outside and gain good yards.

Player who will have a better NFL career than many drafted higher than him.

Brown is a big, strong back with sneaky speed, and excellent hands.  He is also an effective blocker.  Brown could be a better NFL player than he was a college player.  Brown looked very good during Senior Bowl practices and could, worst case, be a two-way third down back.  He could be both a short yardage back and a shotgun back because he can catch, block and is a load to bring down.
5 151 Rhett Bomar QB Sam Houston State #6 QB Round 4

Senior Bowl practice comment

The kid has a big-time arm, but was not as accurate as other quarterbacks.  Can throw the deep out and showed he can run.  Was ahead of Bradford before transferring.
6 200 DeAndre Wright CB New Mexico NR 7th/FA
7 238 Stoney Woodson CB South Carolina NR Off My Board
FA ---- Maurice Evans DE Penn State NR Late Round Value
FA ---- Bruce Johnson CB Miami #27 CB Round 5

 

A-

2009 COLLEGE DRAFT REPORT CARD

by Jay Goldberg

It would have been fitting to give this draft a grade of "B" since the Giants drafted five players in row whose last name started with "B".  However, A- it is.  Even though I may have gone in a few different directions in the draft, the Giants did a great job.  They stole Beatty and Brown, and Bomar has the potential to develop into a top backup and future high pick via a trade.

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The Giants got very lucky when Nicks fell to them in round one.  I had him as the #3 rated receiver in this draft class, and gave a lot of thought to moving him ahead of Macklin.  His over-weight workout that resulted in a horrible short shuttle was what stopped me from moving him to t#2.  However, it wouldn't surprise me if Nicks catches more balls long term than any receiver in this draft.  He has solid size and speed, runs good routes and has incredible hands.  He will be a number one receiver in time, and provide the Giants with one of the top receivers in the league.

Sintim was one of the few linebackers who excelled outside in a 3-4 defense in college.  So with all the movement towards 3-4 defenses in the league, he gets drafted by a team that plays a 4-3 defense.  I have serious questions regarding Sintim's ability to be a starting SAM in a 4-3 because of his below-average cover skills.  I might have followed up the selection of Nicks, with another receiver, Massaquoi, who will be a much better receiver in the NFL than Barden, who the Giants selected in round three.  However, Sintim should be effective as a pass rusher in the nickel and gives the Giants the option to employ some 3-4 looks with Kiwanuka and Sintim playing outside.

Beatty was an out and out steal at the bottom of round two.  The kid isn't ready yet, but has the skill set, strength and athleticism to develop into a fine starting left tackle.  Maybe next year Beatty will step in and start at left tackle, allowing Diehl to move back to guard making the Giants' line scary good.

Barden is a big kid with good hands but could have trouble getting off the line and getting separation in the NFL.  Now with his size if he can get off the line he may not need much separation to be a valuable asset.  However, after drafting Massaquoi in round two, I would have grabbed middle linebacker Brinkley here.  He would have been a great special teams player while apprenticing behind Pierce, possibly replacing the declining Pierce as early as this year.

Beckum is a productive, athletic tight end who was a good get at this spot.  However, the taller, faster, better-blocking Nelson would have been my pick.  

Brown showed a lot in the post-season.  I had a second round grade on him.  He is a strong runner.  He is an excellent receiver.  And he has better speed than most think.  I look for Brown to overtake Bradshaw as the "wind" (Ward) in the Giants' backfield sooner rather than later.

Bomar landed in a great spot.  I could see him going one of two ways; playing early and failing, or waiting, learning and succeeding.  He has the arm, the release and the athleticism to develop into a starting NFL quarterback.  He just needs time to improve his decision-making.  Luckily for him he can be brought along pressure-free with the Giants.  As Bomar develops I expect him to shine in preseason games (and possibly in spot play if Manning gets hurt or during blowouts), and then some team will come knocking on New York's door offering a nice package of picks to get the kid.

The Giants had Wright graded more highly than me.  My pick here would have been corner/free safety Lankster, a kid who has more upside than just a special-teamer which is how I have Wright graded.   Lankster could also have helped the Giants as a return man.

One of the best indicators of not being secure in your selection is drafting the clone of a player previously drafted.  Woodson is very similar to Wright.  So rather than trying two and hoping for one, if the draft unfolded as the Giants picked (rather than my picks), middle linebacker Beckwith should have been the pick here.  I would have brought in a free agent as Wright-insurance and grabbed a kid that had no business going undrafted in Beckwith.

COLLEGE STREET FREE AGENTS

The Giants didn't have many undrafted college street free agents that jumped out at me.  Maurice Evans is a quick defensive end who will be a plus on special teams if he cracks the roster.  Worst case he should be a priority signing to the Giants' development squad.

I like the potential of Bruce Johnson more than either Wright or Woodson.  However, Johnson is not as NFL-ready as either of those two because he needs to add bulk and strength so he can play on special teams while serving as a backup corner.  Johnson is fast, quick and athletic, but had a poor final year at Miami.  He has the potential to develop into a solid slot corner.

For chart below: red indicates workout number in top range at position in draft
ARM-HAND relative to position, for ranges see ranking pages for 2009 draft

LAST NAME
at Combine
FIRST NAME SCHOOL HGT WGT ARM-
HAND
BENCH 40 10 20 SHORT LONG 3 CONE VERT BROAD
Nicks Hakeem North Carolina 6'0.6" 212 L-XL - 4.49 1.52 2.60 4.43 - 6.96 36" -
Sintim Clint Virginia 6'2.6" 256 XL-L - 4.78 1.58 2.71 4.40 - 7.37 34.5" 9'11"
Beatty William Connecticut 6'6" 307 L-L 27 5.03 1.72 2.93 4.77  - 7.62 33.5" 8'11"
Barden Ramses Cal-Poly 6'6" 229 XL-XL 17 4.51 1.62 2.68 4.28 - 7.10 33.5" 10'2"
Beckum Travis Wisconsin 6'2.6" 239 XL-M 28 4.61 1.56 2.64 4.24  - 7.05 38.5" 9'10"
Brown Andre N.C. State 6'0.1" 224 L-L 24 4.45 1.47 2.58 4.24 - 7.04 37" 9'7"
Bomar Rhett Sam Houston St 6'2.2" 225 L-M 25 4.71 1.59 2.75 4.06 - 6.91 - 8'10"
Wright DeAndre New Mexico 5'10.6" 198 M-M 17 4.52 1.50 2.62 4.44 - 7.00 34.5" 10'2"
Woodson Stoney South Carolina 5'10.5" 196 - 15 4.53 1.55 2.60 4.35 - 7.23 33.5" 9'3"
Evans Maurice Penn State 6'1.4" 274 L-L 22 4.75 1.61 2.76 4.32 - 7.03 30" 9'2"
Johnson Bruce Miami 5'9.6" 167 L-S 6 4.42 1.49 2.59 4.03 - 6.71 38.5" 10'4"

2009 NEEDS PRIOR TO DRAFT AND FREE AGENCY
Major need
     Need     Upgrade possible     Depth/possible need     Not a need

QB Manning is a solid quarterback you can win with.  He is not a top tier guy and will never be.  Carr looked fine as his backup but is an UFA.
RB Both Ward and Jacobs are free agents.  The Giants will likely get only one back.  That should be Jacobs, with Bradshaw ready to take Ward's role in the offense., and RFA Ware ready to take Bradshaw's role. 
WR The Giants will need a make-over at receiver.  Burress could be welcomed back, but he also could be in jail, or playing for another team.  You have to plan as though he's gone.  Toomer is an UFA whose starting days are most likely behind him.  That leaves Hixon and Simth as sure contributors; Moss and Tyree as possible; and Manningham a player who needs to improve top contribute.  The Giants need a top flight receiver.
TE Boss played well enough to keep his job and expect improvement in his second year as a starter.  Matthews is a good blocker.  Johnson does everything okay.  Upgrades, especially behind Boss could be addressed.
OL The Giants' line is very, very good.  But it could be special if a dominate left tackle is added and Diehl goes back to guard.  In any case, depth is needed.
DL With Umenyiora coming back to pair with Tuck and Kiwanuka, the Giants have the best trio of defensive ends in the NFL.  Cofield and Robbins are solid at tackle and Alford is growing into a relaible rotation player as well.
LB Pierce is the one given in this unit, but his play was down a bit from his prior two years.  Blackburn and Clark are okay but replaceable starters.  Wilkinson was thought to be a starter, but injuries have probably robbed him of that chance. Kehl, Goff and DeOssie are all good athletes who could see their roles increase, especially Kehl, but none play the middle.
DB The Giants have an excellent secondary.  At corner Ross and Webster are a good, young duo. Dockery is a good #3 corner but is an UFA.  If he leaves, Thomas should replace him and perform well.  At safety Butler and Johnson start and are solid but not playmakers.  Phillips, is the better playmaker and should move into the starting lineup next year.
ST The Giants kicker and punter went to the Pro Bowl, but they also are eligible to play in old-timer games.  Bradshaw and McQuarters are fine returnmen but a game-breaker could be added as an upgrade.

 

2008 DRAFT PICKS
links go to NFL.com website

Arizona
Rd Sel# Player Pos. Ht. Wt. School Jay's ranking Jay's draft value
1 31 Kenny Phillips FS 6'2.2" 212 Miami #1 FS Round 1
2 63 Terrell Thomas CS/S/Ret 6'0.4" 204 USC #13 CB Round 3
3 95 Mario Manningham WR 5'11.6" 181 Michigan #8 WR Round 2/Round 3
4 123 Bryan Kehl OLB 6'2.2" 242 BYU #8 OLB Round 3/Round 4

Player who will have a better NFL career than many drafted higher than him.

Kehl is a very good athlete.  He has the speed to chase plays sideline-to-sideline and the quickness to stay with backs out of the backfield.  He also has a nose for the ball and makes big plays.  He will be a very good WILL in the NFL and has the strength to play SAM as well.
5 165 Jonathan Goff ILB 6'2" 245 Vandy #5 ILB Round 3

Player who will have a better NFL career than many drafted higher than him.

Goff was thought to be a smart, instinctive, tough linebacker who was limited athletically.  His workout, however, shows he is a good athlete for an inside linebacker.  While he has the measureables to play the middle in a 4-3 defense, I believe his play on the field and size translate better to playing inside in a 3-4.  If he lands with a 3-4 team, he could have a nice career as a starter. 
6 198 Andre' Woodson QB 6'4" 229 Kentucky #7 QB Round 3/Round 4
6 199 Robert Henderson DE 6'3.1" 278 So Miss   Free Agent
FA   Andrew Bain OG 6'3.2" 325 Miami   Late Round Value
FA   Wallace Gilberry DE 6'2" 268 Alabama #18 DE Round 4
FA   D. J. Hall WR 6'1.7" 193 Alabama   Late Round Value
FA   Nehemiah Warrick FS 6'1.7" 211 Colorado   Late Round Value

 

B+

2008 COLLEGE DRAFT REPORT CARD

by Jay Goldberg

The Giants had a solid draft.  The Giants could have used a left tackle but they flew off the board before they selected in round one.  Diehl is solid at that position but putting in a stud there and moving him back to guard could have made this unit a dominate one.  In college street free agency the team added an interesting prospect in defensive end Gilberry. 

DRAFT PICKS

Phillips was the best free safety in this draft and fills a need for the Giants who lost Gibril Wilson in free agency.  Phillips has measureables, ball skills, and football smarts and should be an important piece of their defense for years.

I thought Thomas would be best served in a Tampa cover two defense.  However, he does have more speed than the typical cover two corner so it wasn't that much of a stretch for the Giants system which employs both man and zone.  Personally, I liked Charles Godfrey a bit more at this spot.

Manningham is an enigma.  While I had a second-to-third round grade on him, he is too much of a hit-or-miss prospect for me with Lavelle Hawkins and even Andre Caldwell still available.  I love Hawkins upside.  Manningham is a player that needs to mature as a person before he can be counted-on on the football field.

Kehl was a great pick in round four.  This kid has a rare combination of strength, speed, quickness, and athleticism.  He also has rare change-of-direction for a man his size.  He could develop into a dominating WILL, and could even hold his own at SAM if needed.  At BYU he had 91 tackles, 4 sacks, 11.5 tackles for loss and 3 interceptions his senior year.

Goff is the type of player that catches my eye in the draft process.  Considered strong, fast, but limited athletically, Goff hit a home run with his workout.  This is a kid who needs some development but could grow into a solid starting middle linebacker.  With the G-men he can settle in behind Pierce for a couple of years before taking over.

Woodson is a player with good quarterback skills but horrible, and I mean horrible mechanics.  His arm, smarts, pocket awareness and accuracy are round two stuff.  The way he delivers the ball will make him David-Carr-like (sacked continuously).  If he is willing to re-learn how to play the position, he could have a nice NFL career.  If not he will be out of the league quickly.

Henderson was not on my radar.  He may have a tough time making the roster and could start the season on the Giants' practice squad.

COLLEGE STREET FREE AGENTS

Bain is a big strong kid from a top college program who has a chance to develop into a backup guard.  He is an ideal candidate for the Giants' practice squad.

Gilberry is an interesting case.  On film he looks like a good player with the potential to get after the quarterback.  However, his workout was poor.  He is certainly worth a look in camp and could beat out Henderson for a roster spot.

Warrick is an athletic safety with very good quickness.  The Giants have a lot of quality players fighting for roster spots in the secondary, but Warrick has a legit shot to steal a roster spot.  One reason is that he can be a top special teams player. 

red indicates workout number in top range at position in draft
(blue college name indicates workout #'s include Pro Day numbers)

COMBINE
YES
FIRST NAME SCHOOL HEIGHT WEIGHT BENCH 40 10 20 SHORT LONG 3 CONE VERT BROAD
Phillips Kenny MIAMI 6'2.2" 212 19 4.48 1.47 2.53 4.27 NA 6.97 34" 10'1"
Thomas Terrell USC 6'0.4" 204 14 4.45 1.45 2.54 4.24 NA 7.07 36" 10'5"
Manningham Mario MICHIGAN 5'11.6" 181 16 4.38 1.57 2.65 4.27 NA 7.34 35" 9'9"
Kehl Brian BYU 6'2.2" 242 26 4.56 1.54 2.62 4.14 NA 6.54 35" 10'2"
Goff Jonathan VANDERBILT 6'2" 245 28 4.63 1.53 2.64 4.26 11.50 6.86 35.5" 9'10"
Woodson Andre KENTUCKY 6'4" 229 NA 4.85 1.65 2.78 4.33 NA 7.28 27.5" 9'1"
Henderson Robert SO MISS 6'3.1" 278 22 4.81 1.63 2.71 4.53 NA 7.28 NA 9'6"
Bain Andrew MIAMI 6'3.2" 325 32 5.25 1.76 2.99 4.83 NA NA 26" NA
Gilberry Wallace ALABAMA 6'2" 268 19 4.96 1.67 2.85 NA NA NA 30" 9'10"
Hall D. J. ALABAMA 6'1.7" 193 NA 4.55 1.55 2.60 NA NA NA 32.5" 10'5"
Warrick Nehemiah COLORADO 6'1.7" 211 16 4.54 1.50 2.61 4.09 NA 6.98 32" 10'0"

2008 NEEDS PRIOR TO DRAFT AND FREE AGENCY

NYG          Major Need          Need          Upgrade         Depth Need         Not a Need

QB  Eli finally looks like he'll be an above average NFL quarterback.  The Giants need to bring in a player to compete with Lorenzen and Wright.
RB Jacobs and Bradshaw are an excellent one-two punch.  Droughns is still a valuable reserve.  Ward is a RFA, but he is a talented player as well.  Hedgecock is a good fullback.
WR  Burress not only played up to his talent, but was a tough son-of-a-gun as well.  Toomer is still productive, but will be pushed by Smith for a starting job next year.  Tyree is a great special teams player and showed he can catch the ball when called upon also.  Moss has disappeared.  The Giants may add a player for depth, especially if Toomer doesn't come back.
TE I like the Boss selection in the draft, and I like it even more after watching him play when Shockey went down.  Matthews is a perfect third tight end.  He can block and catches okay.  No need here unless Shockey is moved.
OL The Giants' line played very well.  I'd say a bit over their heads.  Diehl did a great job a left tackle, but I still think he and the Giants would be best served with Diehl back at guard and a larger player brought in to play left tackle.  If that doesn't happen, a backup should be brought in.  Also a young center to push O'Hara could also be addressed.
DL The Giants are set at end.  If Strahan retires, they may need to add a backup end.  However, if they move Kiwanuka back to end, they may not.  The team could use depth at tackle.
LB Mitchell (WILL) is a free agent and he played well enough to warrant being a priority to resign.  Pierce is solid in the middle.  Youngsters Wilkinson (WILL) and DeOssie (SAM) are interesting prospects.  I didn't like Kiwanuka at SAM, he should return to defensive end.  If Mitchell leaves, the Giants will need to add a veteran linebacker to compete with Wilkenson.  In addition, a player to compete with DeOssie for the SAM should be brought in.  Torbor is a valuable sub, not a top starter.
DB The Giants suddenly are deep at cornerback.  Ross really stepped up in his rookie campaign and Webster improved late in the year.  Madison had a bounce back year of sorts, before the season he was trending downward.  Dockery and McQuarters are useful subs.  Safety is a different story.  Wilson was exceptional at free safety, but is a free agent.  If he leaves, there will be a big hole in the Giants' defense.  Butler is okay, but replaceable at strong safety.  Johnson showed some good things, and some bad things.
ST Both kicker and punter are free agents.  The return men (McQuarters, Hixon) are ok, but if a dynamic player can be added it would upgrade the unit.

 

2007 DRAFT PICKS
links go to NFL.com website

Rd Sel# Player Pos. Ht. Wt. School Jay's ranking Jay's Draft Value
1 20 Ross, Aaron CB 6-1 192 Texas # 4 CB Round 1
2 51 Smith, Steve WR 5-11 199 Southern California # 7 WR Round 2
3 81 Alford, Jay DT 6-3 304 Penn State Late Round Value
4 116 DeOssie, Zak OLB 6-5 250 Brown #6 ILB Round 3
5 153 Boss, Kevin TE 6-6 257 Western Oregon # 8 TE Round 4
6 189 Koets, Adam OT 6-5 298 Oregon State # 8 OT Round 3
7 224 Johnson, Michael SS 6-3 211 Arizona # 6 FS Round 4
7 250 Bradshaw, Ahmad RB 5-9 198 Marshall Late Round Value
FA Dahl, Craig SS 6-2 215 North Dakota St Late Round Value
FA Gunn, Marquies DE 6-4 266 Auburn Late Round Value
FA Keenan, Ryan OG 6-5 295 Northwestern Off My Board
FA London, Brandon WR 6-4 214 Massachusetts Late Round Value
FA Matthews, Michael TE 6-3 261 Georgia Tech Late Round Value
FA Thomas, Marco WR 5-11 186 Western Illinois Off My Board

 

A-

2007 COLLEGE DRAFT REPORT CARD

by Jay Goldberg

The Giants had a very good draft.  They addressed need areas and only reached for one player (Alford), while getting good value with all of their day two selections.  In  free agency they didn't add any eye-openers, but did add some players with a chance to make the roster and contribute.

I like Ross a lot and cornerback was the number one need for the Giants.  He is a tough kid who will be an above average corner with good cover skills, good ball skills, and provide good run support.  He is also a very good punt returner.  Although I am in the minority, I liked Chris Houston better.  I believe Houston will be a Pro Bowl caliber cornerback.  However, Ross has less of a downside than Houston so I cannot fault the Giants for selecting him.  They badly need a corner who will succeed.  Smith in round two is an interesting pick.  He has good hands and quickness, is a student of the game, and is sneaky fast.  With Toomer coming back from injury and Moss not able to stay healthy, he will get a chance to contribute in his rookie year.  However, I still look for Moss to get on the field as the Giants' #3 wideout; he is a major playmaker.  So Smith may have to beat out Toomer to be a significant contributor this year.  Alford was the one reach in the Giants' draft.  That doesn't mean he will not be a contributor.  As he is now he will be best served in the Giants defense as backup at tackle who plays on passing downs.  If he hits the weight room, he has the frame to grow into a two-way tackle who can play the run and the pass.  I liked Tyler and Mebane better at this spot.  DeOssie is another player I like a lot.  Initially he will be a stellar special teams player.  In time he could be a starting SAM linebacker (Kiwanuka could go back to end when Strahan retires and DeOssie can replace him in the starting lineup).  DeOssie is strong, fast, quick and athletic.  Even better, when the Giants' replace their head coach after the season with the 3-4 cow-guy from Pittsburgh (how's this for an early prediction), DeOssie is a perfect fit at inside linebacker in that scheme.  The Giants don't have a proven backup tight end on their roster.  Shockey plays hard and gets banged up so a reliable second tight end is a needed.  Boss should be that tight end.  He is a willing blocker and a good receiver with deceptive speed and good athleticism.  He will make a contribution immediately which is very good for a fifth round pick.  Koets could be the steal of the draft for the Giants.  I had a third round grade on him.  Koets plays with good technique and is a heady player.  Originally it was thought that he was limited athletically.  However, he had one of the better workouts for tackles.  Look for Koets to grow into a very solid starter in a year or two.  Johnson is a good football player who needs to improve his tackling skills.  However, that could hurt him since he was drafted late so will be expected to contribute on special teams coverage units.  Long term, Johnson's best position could be free safety even though he was a strong safety in college.  He has good quickness and ball skills and could develop into a solid center-field-tyoe of safety.  If Bradshaw improves his blocking he could be the Giants' third-down back.  He is quick and has good hands, but lacks breakaway speed.  The Giants don't have a returning third-down back on their roster.

The Giants signed some college street free agents who could stick.  Dahl is a good athlete who has a nice mix of size, speed and quickness.  While he could develop into a starting in-the-box  strong safety down the line, he will be a special teams demon if he makes the team.  If Johnson has trouble tackling in camp, Dahl could steal his backup safety job.  Gunn needs to add bulk to stick as a backup defensive end since his strength is playing the run.  He hustles but lacks the speed to be a consistent pass rusher.  Keenan is who the development squad was made for, a recent convert from defense to the offensive line.  He is a smart and strong but needs work.  London was almost drafted by the Giants in round seven and was a priority target in college street free agency.   In a deep receiver class he got lost in the shuffle.  He has excellent size and is very quick for a 6-4 receiver.  He is another candidate for the Giants' development squad.  Matthews may have found the perfect team for him.  He is a very good blocker with good speed who can be the Giants' number three tight end, number two fullback, and number one h-back.  Marco Thomas is a kid who has been beating the odds his whole life.  He has excellent straight-line speed, guts, and good hands.  He may not make it but he won't make it easy for the coaching staff to cut him.

red indicates workout number in top range at position in draft

COMBINE
YES

 

COLLEGE

POS HGHT WGHT BENCH 40 10 20 SHORT
SHUTTLE
LONG
SHUTTLE
3
 CONE
VERTICAL
JUMP
BROAD
JUMP
ROSS AARON TEXAS-AUSTIN CB/RET 6'0.4" 193 17 4.44 1.50 2.55 4.15   6.67 34" 9'10"
Ross is a solid corner.  He has good strength and quickness, changes direction very well, is good in coverage and has good ball skills.  He should develop into a reliable long term starter, but may fall a bit short of Pro Bowl caliber.  He is also a good punt returner.

COMBINE
YES

 

COLLEGE

POS HGHT WGHT BENCH 40 10 20 SHORT
SHUTTLE
LONG
SHUTTLE
3
 CONE
VERTICAL
JUMP
BROAD
JUMP
SMITH STEVE USC WR 5'11.6" 197   4.44  1.46 2.52 4.19   6.68 38" 10'0"
Smith is a reliable target with good quickness.  He is also sneaky fast and makes sharp cuts.  He is aslo a smart receiver who knows how to get open.  I like him better than his more heralded teammate, Dwayne Jarrett.

COMBINE
YES

 

COLLEGE

POS HGHT WGHT BENCH 40 10 20 SHORT
SHUTTLE
LONG
SHUTTLE
3
 CONE
VERTICAL
JUMP
BROAD
JUMP
ALFORD JAY PENN ST DT/DE 6'3.3" 304 24 5.07 1.71 2.90 4.53   7.48 25.5" 8'7"
Alford is a quick tackle who could move outside and play end in a 3-4 defense.  He will need to hit the weight room to be a starting tackle in 4-3 defense.  However, he could be a valuable rotation player at that spot, playing on passing downs.

COMBINE
YES

 

COLLEGE

POS HGHT WGHT BENCH 40 10 20 SHORT
SHUTTLE
LONG
SHUTTLE
3
 CONE
VERTICAL
JUMP
BROAD
JUMP
DEOSSIE ZAK BROWN ILB/OLB 6'4.5" 250 26 4.53 1.56 2.66 4.22 11.50 6.89 34.5" 10'2"

PLAYER WHO COULD HAVE A BETTER NFL CAREER THAN PLAYERS SELECTED AHEAD OF HIM in the DRAFT

DeOssie was all over the field, both on defense and special teams at the East West Shrine Game.  His workout numbers fully support that performance.  At 250 pounds, he is one of the best athletes at linebacker in the draft.  DeOssie is another player with the size to play inside in a 3-4 and speed to play inside in a 4-3.  Another intriguing possibility, is to use his size, speed, and strength to play the SAM in a 4-3.   No matter where he ends up, DeOssie will have a productive NFL career while players drafted ahead of him don't dress for games.

COMBINE
YES

 

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BOSS KEVIN WESTERN OREGON TE 6'6.5" 253 15 4.71 1.63 2.71 4.41 11.81 6.96 35.5" 10'0"
Boss is an athletic, big target with acceptable speed and quickness for a tight end, and very good change-of-direction skills.  He is also a hard worker and has soft hands.

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KOETS ADAM OREGON ST OT 6'5.1" 298 20 5.08 1.68 2.90 4.47   7.44 32" 8'10"
Koets knows how to play the game.  He was considered a smart player and a scrapper.  Originally, it was thought that his workout would be pedestrian.  However, he showed good speed and quickness and was a better athlete than advertised.  Put it all together and Koets is a nice sleeper in the draft. 

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JOHNSON MICHAEL ARIZONA FS/SS 6'2.5" 205 18 4.53 1.52 2.61 4.11   7.04 35.5" 9'9"
Johnson played strong safety in college but projects best as a free safety in the NFL.  While he is strong and built solidly he is not currently a reliable tackler.  However, he has the speed, quickness, and ball skills to play free safety.  In any case he will have tom improve his tackling skills because he will need to start off on special teams coverage units.

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BRADSHAW AHMAD MARSHALL RB 5'9.4" 198   4.55 1.59 2.68 4.09   6.70 34" 9'4"
Bradshaw is a third-down, change-of-pace back.  He is quick, makes sharp cuts in the hole, but lacks breakaway speed.  He is a good receiver, but needs work on his blocking.

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DAHL CRAIG N DAKOTA ST SS 6'1.5" 215 17 4.53 1.53 2.61 4.10 11.03 6.69 35" 10'2"
Dahl is a headhunter with a nice combination of size, speed and quickness.  He should be a valuable special teams performer and could develop into an in-the-box strong safety.

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GUNN MARQUIES AUBURN DE 6'3.7" 266 26 4.81 1.62 2.77     7.46 31.5" 9'6"
Gunn is a tweener as an end.  He is a tough kid who looks like he should be a good pass rusher, but is really better against the run.  If he adds bulk he could win a job as a backup.

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KEENAN RYAN N/WESTERN OG 6'4.4" 295                  
Keenan started his college football career on the defensive line and was moved to the offensive line.  He has played both guard and tackle and is a very smart and very strong kid.

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LONDON BRANDON MASS WR 6'4.3" 214   4.54 1.49 2.66 4.15   6.55 38" 10'2"
London has good size and hands, decent speed and good quickness.  He also can make sharp cuts.  He will get lost in this deep wide receiver draft but is worth a shot late in the draft or as a priority free agent.

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MATTHEWS MICHAEL GEORGIA TECH TE/FB 6'3.3" 261 22 4.70 1.60 2.67 4.46   7.49 31.5" 9'2"
Matthews is a very good blocker who has sneaky speed.  He could stick as a versatile tight end, h-back and fullback.

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THOMAS MARCO WEST ILL WR 5'11.1" 186   4.38 1.49 2.51 4.31   7.03    
Thomas is a kid who has been overcoming big odds his whole life.  He has excellent straight line speed and could overcome the odds to make a roster once again.

 

2007 TEAM NEEDS PRIOR TO THE DRAFT and FREE AGENCY
major need     need     depth/possible need     not a significant need

QB Manning needs to take a step forward or the Giants may be in the position the Texans are in now.
RB Barber retired, Jacobs has looked good, but another body is needed.
WR Toomer is coming off injury and getting older, Burress is solid, Moss should come on.
TE Shockey is good, but gets banged up too much, Shiancoe is an UFA.
OL Petitgout was released, O'Hara is an UFA. 
DL Defensive end is set, but a tackle is needed to pair with Cofield.  Robins played well, Joseph did it.
LB MLB Pierce is the only solid starter.  Wilkinson has potential.  Short is a decent stop-gap.
DB Corner is an major need area.  Wilson, Demps, and Butler give them decent safeties.
ST Feely is an UFA.  Moss needs to come on as a return man.  Morton was cut.

2006 DRAFT PICKS
Links go to write-ups at NFL.com

N.Y. Giants
Rd Sel# Player Pos. Ht. Wt. School Jay's ranking Jay's draft value
1 32 Kiwanuka, Mathias DE 6-6 265 Boston College # 5 DE Round 2
2 44 Moss, Sinorice WR 5-8 184 Miami (Fla.) # 3 WR Round 1
3 96 Wilkinson, Gerris ILB 6-3 239 Georgia Tech # 3 ILB Round 2
4 124 Cofield, Barry DT 6-4 303 Northwestern # 12 DT Round 3
4 129 Whimper, Guy OT 6-5 305 East Carolina # 10 OT Round 4
5 158 Peprah, Charlie SS 5-11 202 Alabama Late Round Value > Round 4
7 232 McPhearson, Gerrick CB 5-10 191 Maryland # 17 CB Round 4
  FA Mix, Anthony WR 6-4 235 Auburn Late Round Value > Round 4
  FA Evans, Willie DE 6-1 269 Mississippi St Late Round Value > Round 4
  FA Anderson, Sir Henry DT 6-4 306 Oregon State # 15 DT Round 4
  FA Green, Marcus DT 6-1 295 Ohio State Late Round Value > Round 4
  FA Coley, Tevis SS 6-1 227 Southern Miss Late Round Value > Round 4
  FA Coley, Kevis OLB 6-1 231 Southern Miss Late Round Value > Round 4

 

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2006 COLLEGE DRAFT REPORT CARD

by Jay Goldberg

The Giants reached in round one, but got good to great value at all other spots in the draft, and signed some good college street free agents.  The Giants selected four players from my list of prospects who will have a better NFL career than many selected higher than them in the draft (Wilkinson, Cofield, Whimper, McPhearson).

I know, I know; how can a team reach in round one but still get a grade of A?  The reason is simple.  Before the draft, the player I thought the Giants should draft in round one was Sinorice Moss.  He was a perfect fit for what the Giants needed.  He would complete their offense, putting it on par with any in the NFL (assuming that Manning takes another step in his development).  In fact, I projected Moss to the Giants in my mock draft where the Giants were selecting 25th, not 32nd.  If the Giants did indeed draft Moss in round one, and then selected Kiwanuka in round two, neither would have been a reach, and both would have represented good value.  So for grading purposes the steal of Moss in round two makes up for the reach of Kiwanuka in round one.  Kiwanuka has good pass rushing skills, is quick, and athletic.  However, he will need to get stronger to be able to play against the run and to be able to mount a rush against the stronger tackles in the league.  With Starhan, Umenyiora, and Tuck on board, Kiwanuka will have time to develop.  He will be a pass rush specialist this year, and could be Strahan's eventual replacement when age catches up to the 34 year old All Pro.  Moss has it all except size.  He is quick, quick, quick, with great acceleration, superb cutting ability, tremendous athleticism, and very good hands.  Moss in the slot on passing downs will require defenses to pay special attention to him.  With Burress, Toomer, Shockey and Barber also on the field, it's hard to imagine someone not getting open.  Now if Manning continues to improve and the Giants' offensive line holds up, this traditionally defensive-minded team could challenge to be the most potent offense in the league.  Moss may not be the best offensive rookie next year from a stat and production perspective, but he may be the single most important new offensive addition from the draft.  With Arrington slated to play the SAM, and Pierce a young star in the middle, Wilkinson could be the Giants' starting WILL by year's end, beating out both Emmons and Short.  If he doesn't start by the end of this year, he will be a solid backup and excellent special teams player this year, and a starter next year. Wilkinson has good speed, excellent quickness, is a tackling machine, can blitz, and is a terrific athlete.  Arrington-Pierce-Wilkinson will be one of the top linebacking corps in the NFL in a couple of years.  Cofield is fast, quick, athletic and strong.  He will be part of the rotation at tackle this year, and is another draft pick who could be a starter by year's end.  Whimper was another good choice.  Having started only one year at tackle, he will need time to develop.  Whimper has superb speed, quickness and footwork for a tackle, and is also a strong young man.  He may not see the field this year, but the Giants' may finally have their future replacement for Petitgout, a player they have been looking to replace as a starter on and off the last few years.  Peprah projects as an ideal nickel or dime back.  He has experience at safety and corner, is very quick, and is a smart player.  He should also be a valuable, versatile sub who can be an asset on special teams.  McPherson was the fastest player in the draft.  It was said he ran in the low 4.2s at college.  However, speed is not McPherson's only calling card.  He is quick, he is strong, he is a top athlete, he can cut on a dime.  If his production on the field matched his workout he would have been a first round pick, but McPherson got beat too often.  My analysis is that he relied too much on his athletic ability at Maryland, and if he gets good coaching, he could develop into a very good starting cornerback in the league.  Worst case, McPherson will be a terror on special teams. 

The Giants followed up a very good draft with some quality college street free agents signings.  Mix is a big receiver who has good speed for his size, and makes catches in traffic.  There are questions about his character which is probably why he went undrafted.  He also needs to be play a more physical game to take advantage of his size.  If Mix toes the line he could stick, worst case, as a member of the Giants' practice squad.  Evans is an effort player who may find it tough to stick because of the Giants' talent at defensive end, but will also make it tough for the Giants' coaching staff to cut him because of his work ethic.  Look for Evans to be on the Giant's practice squad if he isn't picked up by another team.  Anderson is a run stuffing defensive tackle who has a shot to win a backup job with the Giants.  I had a fourth round grade on Anderson.  Green is an undersized defensive tackle with exceptional strength and good work habits.  He may have to beat out Anderson for a roster spot.  The Coley brothers could also stick.  Tevis is the more athletic, but wasn't as good at Southern Miss.  However, his athleticism will allow him to compete at strong safety where the Coley's skills are in the acceptable range for the position.  Kevis was a star of his team, but will have to compete at WILL, and his athletic skills are not quite up to the level usually required for that position.  Both Coley brothers should be good special teams players.

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Kiwanuka Boston Col 6'5.6", 266 4.73 1.66 2.77 4.13   7.29 17 32' 10'0"  
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Jay Goldberg, 900FootballLinks.NET - Kimanuka is a tall, rangy defensive end with good speed. 
Jay Goldberg, 900FootballLinks.NET - Kiwanuka did not have a particularly good week of practice at the Senior Bowl.  He was kept in check by the Brick in pass rush drills.
Jay Goldberg, 900FootballLinks.NET - Kiwanuka had 32.5 sacks and 42 tackles for loss his last two years in college.  Kiwanuka has good quickness and athleticism but will need to hit the weight room to be a force against the run.
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Moss Miami 5'8", 185 4.38 1.48 2.53         42" 10'3"  
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Jay Goldberg, 900FootballLinks.NET - A very explosive player.  Moss is lightning-quick, fast, has good hands and amazing acceleration.  A definite play-maker in the NFL, he is an ideal slot receiver who will have to be double-teamed to be contained.  Moss will be a more productive NFL player than he was a college player.
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Wilkinson Georgia Tech 6'3", 233 4.62 1.67 2.73 4.08   7.23 19 41" 10'11"  

PLAYER WHO WILL PERFORM BETTER IN NFL THAN MANY DRAFTED BEFORE HIM

After Jackson and Hodge there are some differences in opinions regarding the next inside linebacker who should come off the board.  In my opinion, there should be no debate.  Wilkinson is clearly the next best, and is very close in value to Hodge.  Wilkinson has good speed and quickness for the position, is a surprisingly good athlete, and was very productive at Georgia Tech.
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Jay Goldberg, 900FootballLinks.NET - Wilkinson played well during the Senior Bowl Game.
Jay Goldberg, 900FootballLinks.NET - Wilkinson has played inside linebacker, outside
linebacker, and even some defensive end.  He has the ability to blitz and is a tackle hound.
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Cofield Northwestern 6'4", 304 4.99 1.68 2.88 4.35   7.43 35 34" 8'9"  

PLAYER WHO WILL PERFORM BETTER IN NFL THAN MANY DRAFTED BEFORE HIM

Cofield is one of the more athletic tackles in this draft class, and has the perfect build to play end in a 3-4 defense.  He is strong (35 benches) and quick for his size.  With more conditioning, Cofield could be a find for a team late in day one or early in day two and out-perform players drafted higher than him.
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Jay Goldberg, 900FootballLinks.NET - Cofield's best NFL position will be as a 3-4 defensive end.  However, he does possess the strength and athletic ability to be a good tackle for a 4-3 team as well.
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Whimper East Carolina 6'4.6", 304 4.95 1.77 2.95 4.59   7.38 26 29" 8'6"  

PLAYER WHO WILL PERFORM BETTER IN NFL THAN MANY DRAFTED BEFORE HIM

Wimper is a former tight end with superb quickness.  Being only a one-year starter he will need time to improve his technique.  However, I expect the time working with Wimper to pay big dividends to the team that drafts him. 
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Jay Goldberg, 900FootballLinks.NET - Whimper is a former TE who only played OL for one year.  He can get bigger and stronger and is an intriguing developmental prospect.
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Peprah Alabama 5'10.7", 206 4.53 1.63 2.75 4.09 10.83 6.69 17 37.5" 9'11"  
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Jay Goldberg, 900FootballLinks.NET - Peprah has good speed, excellent quickness, and projects best as a free safety who can step out and cover receivers when needed.  He is also a heady player with experience at corner.
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McPhearson Maryland 5'10.1", 196 4.32 1.51 2.60 4.07 10.94 6.65 18 41.5" 10'9"  

PLAYER WHO WILL PERFORM BETTER IN NFL THAN MANY DRAFTED BEFORE HIM

It is a know fact that McPhearson is one of the fastest players in the draft.  However, his workout also showed he is strong, quick, and athletic.  McPhearson needs coaching because he will not be able to rely on his athleticism in the NFL as he did in college.  With the right coach, McPhearson could be a star.
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Mix Auburn 6'4.1", 235 4.45 1.64 2.71 4.43   7.18   31.5" 9'7"  
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Jay Goldberg, 900FootballLinks.NET - Mix has good size and is fast for a 6'4", 235 pound receiver.  He also has good hands and catches the ball well in traffic.  However, Mix needs to use his size better by playing a more physical game, and there are some concerns regarding his character.
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Evans, W Mississippi St 6'1.3", 269 4.95     4.50   7.30 25 32.5" 8'5"  
DE -NOT AT COMBINE
Jay Goldberg, 900FootballLinks.NET - Evans is a scrapper with good quickness and is a player I wouldn't bet against making onto a NFL roster.
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Anderson, Sir H Oregon State 6'3.6", 306 5.24 1.87 3.02 4.58   7.70 27 28.5" 8'4"  
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Jay Goldberg, 900FootballLinks.NET - Anderson is a run-stuffing defensive tackle.  He has good size and strength and could play in either a 3-4 or a 4-3 defense.
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Green Ohio State 6'1", 295 5.16 1.85 3.07 4.88   7.62 33 31" 9'0"  
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Jay Goldberg, 900FootballLinks.NET - Green is an undersized defensive tackle with great strength.  He either needs to bulk up to play tackle in a 4-3 or switch to end in a 3-4.  He is a hard worker who will be an asset on special teams.
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Coley, T So Mississippi 6'1", 227 4.46     4.23   6.83 18 37" 10'0"  
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Jay Goldberg, 900FootballLinks.NET - Coley played linebacker in college but projects as a strong safety in the NFL.  He has good speed and change-of-direction skills and could catch on as a special teams player and backup.
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Coley, K So Mississippi 6'0.7", 231 4.51     4.43   6.90 19 37.5" 9'10"  
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Jay Goldberg, 900FootballLinks.NET - Coley was a team leader at college and was one of the top players on his team.  However, he may lack the athletic skills to be anything more than a special teams player and backup at WILL.  However, he could be a top special teams player.

 

2006 TEAM NEEDS
prior to free agency

NYG
QB Manning still has some developing to do, but he is on his way.  Hasselbeck is an okay backup but an upgrade is a possibility.
RB Barber is excellent.  Ward and Jacobs are good backups, but may not be able to carry the load if Barber gets hurt.  Jacobs, however, has an interesting upside.
WR Toomer had a solid year but is getting up in years.  Don't worry about Burress, his numbers dropped down the stretch because Manning wasn't as effective.  Carter has speed, but is injured too often and is an UFA.  The Giants need a receiver who can challenge Toomer, and a healthy reliable option as their number three or four.
TE Shockey is one of the best.  The jury is still out on Shiancoe, but I like him.
OL The Giants line allowed the team to post gaudy running numbers, and allowed a reasonable 28 sacks.  However, LT Peitgout gets penalties and a decision will be need to be made because of his cap cost, and O'Hara gets by, but is replaceable.  There may be changes on the Giants' line but it could be a reshuffling under the cap rather than as a result of need.
DL A major strength.  Strahan and Umenyiora may be the best end tandem in the league.  Tuck had a solid rookie year and provides good depth.  Clancy was a free agent steal at tackle, and Joseph finally showed some life.  Robbins offers good depth.
LB Because of how the Giants ended the season, everyone is panicking.  However, Pierce in the middle, and Emmons or Torbor on the strong side are back.  Greisen played well on the weak side but is an UFA. Blackburn proved he could be a solid backup in the middle.  The Giants could have two new starters, but they have some players on hand who are more than serviceable in case they decide to go in other directions.
DB Allenis an UFA who, most likely, will be allowed to walk.  Peterson has an injury he may have trouble coming back from.  Webster player okay as a rookie and has some upside.  However, a corner is a major need.  In fact, two new corners, a starter and a nickel could be added.   At safety Wilson is a very good player who plays at a Pro Bowl level.  Alexander, keeps hanging in there, but one day, the Giants will replace him with a young stud.  That young player could be Butler, who played well as a rookie free agent, or could be someone from the 2006 draft.
ST Feely, Morton, and Ponder are solid. So is Feagles, but he is on the wrong side of not 30, but 40.

 

2005 COLLEGE DRAFT

N.Y. Giants - links below go to NFL.com reports Jaybird Jaybird
Rd Sel# Player Pos. Ht. Wt. School Ranking Value Board
2 43 Webster, Corey CB 6-0 204 Louisiana State # 7 CB Round 2
3 74 Tuck, Justin DE 6-5 256 Notre Dame # 7 DE Round 2
4 110 Jacobs, Brandon RB 6-4 256 Southern Illinois # 14 RB Round 4
6 186 Moore, Eric DE 6-4 255 Florida State # 10 DE Round 3
FA   Wake, Derek OLB 6-3 236 Penn State #9 OLB Round 3
FA   Butler, James FS 6-2 212 Georgia Tech # 7 FS Round 3
FA   Wallace, Kyle OT 6-6 305 Georgia Tech Late Round Value > Round 4
FA   Grant, Ryan RB 6-1 215 Notre Dame Late Round Value > Round 4
FA   Ferri, Diamond SS 5-10 224 Syracuse Late Round Value > Round 4

 

The Giants got excellent value with their four selections, and signed a couple of the best college street free agents available.

Last year I knocked the Giants' draft.  I stated that they should have kept their picks, stayed where they were and drafted Big Ben.  Time will tell if I was right, but Roethlisberger certainly showed he can be a top quarterback in the NFL.  With only four picks the Giants had to hit on all of them.  They did.  If Webster came out a year earlier, he would have been a first round pick.  Hamstring problems affected his draft status this year (hurt his play some, and his ability to workout).  He is a solid player who will challenge Frank Walker for the nickel this year, and possibly, Will Allen as a starter next year.  Tuck was a steal in round three.  The Giants desperately needed depth at defensive end, and Tuck was a player some mentioned as a possibility late in round one, or early in round two.  He is a good pass rusher, and has the mind-set to succeed at end.  Jacobs will give the Giants something they expected from Ron Dayne, but never got, a tough inside runner who can get the first down on third and short.  However, he should not be pigeon-holed as a specialist.  With 4.56 speed (in the forty), great strength and good athletic ability, he could be Tiki Barber's heir apparent.  Moore is a pass rush specialist, much like Torbor who was drafted in the fourth round last year.  While I did not like the Torbor selection last year (particularly as the first pick on day two), I like the Moore pick.  Torbor was selected as a linebacker, something he won't be unless the Giants go to a 3-4.  Moore was drafted as a pass-rushing defensive end, something he will do well.  I had a third round grade on Moore making him a great value pick in round six.

With only four selections, the Giants needed to make a big splash with their college street free agent signings.  They did.  In fact, they grabbed two of the better players available.  The first was outside linebacker Derek Wake.  Check out his workout numbers below.  He is quick, strong, athletic, and smart.  He is still not all the way back from a knee injury suffered in college, but his workout shows he may be all the way back this year.  Before his injury Wake was a difference maker on defense.  He will be a good special teams player and backup this year, and should be a contributor to their base defense (maybe even a starter) in 2006.  The Giants' second major signing was safety James Butler.  He is another impressive athlete (check out his workout numbers below as well) with speed and quickness.  While he has played both corner and safety, he projects best as a free safety where he can use his athletic ability, and is a plus coverage player.  As a corner his coverage ability is average.  Butler has a legit shot to become the Giants' long term answer at free safety down-the-line, pairing up with Wilson, who played great last year.  I wouldn't surprise me if in 2007 both Butler and Wake were starters for the Giants.  Not bad for free agents.  By the way, I had a third round grade on both Wake and Butler.  The Giants signing of quality free agents extended beyond these two.  Offensive tackle Kyle Wallace is a good developmental project who has quickness and strength. Running back Ryan Grant is a speedy, between-the-tackle back who could be a quality NFL backup.  Strong safety Diamond Ferri is a player I wouldn't bet against making the team.  He is a former running back who is improving as a safety, and is a tough kid with good leadership qualities.

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Webster CB 4.45   4.03   6.93 13 39" 10'4" 12
Len Pasquarelli of NFL.com reports: Timing is everything in football, just as in life, LSU cornerback Corey Webster acknowledged to ESPN.com this week. And so maybe, if he could turn back the clock, Webster would have bypassed his final season of college eligibility last spring and gone into the 2004 draft. Had he been in last year's lottery, Webster, who had a brilliant '03 season, one in which he snagged seven interceptions, probably would have been a first-round choice. But he stayed in school for his senior year, suffered a series of injuries (including a nagging hamstring strain), and had an uneven season that dropped him on some 2005 draft boards.  The good news is that Webster finished his bachelor's and now owns a degree in general studies. From a football standpoint, the news is good, too. Finally healthy again, Webster recently worked out for scouts and was clocked on most stopwatches in the mid-4.4s in the 40. His stock, on the decline, is rising again. There is at least an outside chance, particularly if there is an early run on cornerbacks in the first round, that Webster could sneak into the bottom part of the stanza. He is no worse now than a high second-round pick.
Jay Goldberg of 900FootballLinks.NET reports:
May be the fastest corner in the draft.  He is also 6'0".  Webster is a converted wide receiver who still needs time to refine his game.   However, he has a very good upside.
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Jay Goldberg of 900FootballLinks.NET reports: Tuck has added twenty pounds to his frame so he can play defensive end in either a 3-4 or 4-3 alignment.  Tuck is a good athlete, with excellent pass rush moves.
Len Pasquarelli of ESPN.com reports:
At a time when a lot of the defensive end prospects here are suggesting they can also stand up in a two-point stance and get some snaps at linebacker in a 3-4 alignment, one guy who isn't looking for a hybrid role is Justin Tuck of Notre Dame. Tuck has nice "length" to him, at 6-feet-5 and 268 pounds, and with long arms, but clearly feels that he is best suited to play right end in a 4-3 defense. "I've played my whole career with my hand on the ground, rushing the quarterback from [a three-point] technique, and that's my game," said Tuck, projected by several teams as a first-rounder. "I'm aware that teams are looking for the all-around guy who can do a lot of things. But I think I've established what my strengths are and hope people evaluate me on those."
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Jacobs RB 4.56 1.69 4.37   7.53 23 38" 9'10" 20
Allen Trieu of NFLDraftShowcase.com reports: Jacobs obviously has rare physical tools for a running back. His speed considering his size is excellent and he is a scary player to see in the secondary. He must play "up to his size" more and be a little more physical as a runner, but Jacobs will be a great short yardage option at the next level and should be a late 1st day, early 2nd day selection.
Jay Goldberg of 900FootballLinks.NET reports:
Jacobs is a very big running back from both a height and weight standpoint.  Rumor has it he can run the forty in about 4.5.  If that is the case, he will be an intriguing prospect.
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Jay Goldberg of 900FootballLinks.NET reports: Now healthy, Moore was unstoppable at the Hula Bowl.  He looks like a good pass-rushing defensive end. One of my top five players in the game.
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Wake OLB 4.71 1.63 4.13   7.12 20 42.5" 10'10" 21

JAYBIRD PLAYER WHO WILL HAVE A BETTER NFL CAREER THAN MANY DRAFTED HIGHER THAN HIM

Hey, maybe Penn  State will be a linebacker factory again.  Wake was downgraded because of a prior knee injury.  However, he had one of the best workouts in the draft.  Wake ran a 4.13 short shuttle, which is better than some of the quick running backs in the draft, had an amazing 45.5" vertical jump, and a 10'10" broad jump.  Oh yeah, he also has a good motor, and good football instincts.

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Butler FS/CB 4.49 1.63 4.01   6.71 16 44" 10'8" 18
Jay Goldberg of 900FootballLinks.NET reports: Butler had a terrific workout.  He has excellent speed and quickness, and is a good athlete.  He is a also a safety who is aggressive against the run, and has experience in coverage as a corner.  A big risk-reward prospect who I would bet on.  However, he needs to kept at safety (or corner in the nickel) and not drafted to be groomed as a starting corner.  
Jay Goldberg of 900FootballLinks.NET reports:
Butler gets his mention in my Senior Bowl game analysis because of one really nice play, where he anticipated a pass, broke on the ball, beat the receiver to the spot, and grabbed an interception.
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Wallace OT 5.12   4.55   7.86 26 32" 8'8" 18
Jay Goldberg of 900FootballLinks.NET reports: Wallace is a good developmental project.  He showed better strength than expected during workouts.  Could develop into a good reserve, decent starter.
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Grant RB 4.45 1.57 4.14   7.10 17 33.5" 9'7" 26
NFLFans.com reports: Grant has good size with good speed, and runs well between the tackles.  However, he goes down easy, is not a good blocker, and has poor hands for catching.
Jay Goldberg of 900FootballLinks.NET reports: Grant is a fast back with good strength.   While he won't be a starting caliber NFL running back, he could be a good backup.
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Ferri SS 4.61 1.59 4.16   7.08 20 35.5" 9'6" 18
Jay Goldberg of 900FootballLinks.NET reports: Ferri started his football career as a running back.  Last year he showed excellent improvement and was a leader on defense.  He is currently better as an in-the-box safety rather than a safety used in coverage, but is still fairly new to safety and should get better.  Ferri will be a very good special teams player, and could develop into a good backup safety. 

2005 TEAM NEEDS PRIOR TO FREE AGENCY AND THE DRAFT

Jay Goldberg of 90FootballLinks.NET reports: 
major need         need position         possible need, depth needed    no real need
Key UFA: Legree DE/DT, Christie K, Dayne RB, Palmer QB, Warner QB (soon)
Key RFA:  Rivers TE, Griesen LB (5th)
NOTE - RFA COMPENSATION AT MINIMUM TENDER

QB: With Warner set to leave in free agency, and Palmer not a true #2, the Giants will need to find a reliable backup quarterback for manning in the offseason.
RB:
Let Ron Dayne go, please.  He was a mistake to draft (I called it at the time of selection).  Mike Cloud is also an UFA so the Giants will need to address running back depth.  With a deep draft at running back, look for the Giants to take one on day two of the draft.
WR:
This is a major need for the Giants.  Toomer and Hilliard have seen better days, and Carter can't stay healthy.  The back-end of their roster at wide receiver, however, is fine.  Ponder and Tryee are excellent special team players and are solid four and five wideouts, and Taylor has some promise and could be a good number three.
TE:
Shockey and Shiancoe are good and fine respectively.  If Rivers, a RFA, is resigned they are set.
OL:
Where to start.  The Giant's line is very pedestrian.  Outside of the rookie Snee, I could envision a complete makeover.  That's not saying that Petitgout, Dhiel, Whittle, et all are terrible, but they all could be improved upon.  At a minimum, I would look for a stud left tackle and a center.   Hmmm, maybe a right tackle and left guard too.  Well, you get the picture.
DL:
If Strahan makes it back, the Giants are set at end.  At tackle, the Giants can use another body to push (replace?) Joseph, who has been a disappointment.
LB:
The Giants like their linebackers better than I do.  They could use an upgrade across the board, including the strong side currently manned by Carlos Emmons.  Lewis played okay in the middle and may grow into a solid starter, but that's no sure thing.  Griesen looked overmatched in the middle, but played pretty good on the weak side.  However, he is a RFA with only a 5th round pick as compensation and it only takes one team to love him to force the Giants into a tough decision on whether or not to match a big offer.
DB:
The Wills are fine at corner, and Wilson was a rookie find at strong safety.  I also like Frank Walker as a nickel corner.  However, Williams was not a good free safety.  He is better strong safety, but Wilson is the Giant's future at the position.  Therefore, the Giants need to find a starting free safety.
ST:
Christie is an UFA, so the Giants will need to sign a kicker, whether it's Christie or someone else.  I like Ponder on kick returns, and Jones is okay returning punts.  Tryee is as good as it gets as a special teams cover guy.

 

2004 COLLEGE DRAFT

N.Y. Giants - Rivers traded for Manning, Eli
Rd Sel# Player Pos. Ht. Wt. School
1 4 Rivers, Philip QB 6-4 226 North Carolina State
2 34 Snee, Chris G 6-2 314 Boston College
4 97 Torbor, Reggie DE 6-2 254 Auburn
5 136 Wilson, Gibril SS 6-0 197 Tennessee
6 168 Taylor, Jamaar WR 6-0 197 Texas A&M
7 203 Strojny, Drew OT 6-7 327 Duke
7 253 Hilton, Isaac DE 6-3 251 Hampton

 

The Giants made a bold move to grab Eli Manning.  Time will tell if they overpaid or not.  Personally, I feel the compensation was fair, but unnecessary. Big Ben Roethlisberger should be as good as, if not better, than Manning long term.  If the Giants stayed at four and drafted the big gunslinger, they would have been able to add more players to their roster and still ended up with a franchise quarterback.  In round two the Giants drafted the father of the head coach's grandchild.  Think there will be pressure on the kid (Snee) to marry his girlfriend?  And what happens if he has no skill and is danger of being cut?  There goes the child support!  That will probably not happen; Snee is a solid player who should have a long, productive NFL career. I don not understand the selection of Torbor.  The Giants had their choice of any player not drafted in day one and selected a defensive end-outside linebacker 'tweener.  He may have upside as a pass rusher, but I would have gone with OT Nat Dorsey.   Wilson was an excellent pick in round five.  He was not in my four-round value chart because of the position he plays, not because of talent.  Strong safeties are often overlooked in the college draft.  Wilson could be a good starter, maybe even some time this year, with Williams moving back to free safety and Stoutmire moving to the bench.  Taylor is certainly worth a shot in round six.  He has made remarkable progress coming off a major knee injury, running a 4.49 forty, five months after ACL surgery.  The problem was that before his injury he was up-and-down, at times looking like a star in the making, and other times dropping catchable balls. Strojny has potential, but will need time to develop.  Hilton may have been the steal of the draft in the seventh round.  A boom-or-bust type from a small school, Hilton has one of the best combinations of strength, speed and athleticism of all the defensive ends available in the draft.  I like his potential much more than I like Torbor's.  In fact, I would not have batted an eye if the Giants led off day two by selecting Hilton.  I had a third round grade on this player.  That let's you know that I am firmly in the boom, not bust, category when it comes to projecting Hilton's NFL success.  As far as free agents go, the Giants did not land any players that I felt were overlooked values on draft day(s).  Three to watch, however, are: QB Jared Lorenzen, a big man with a big arm who could develop into a quality backup for Manning; Curtis DeLoatch a versatile defensive back with good return skills; and WR Chris Davis who has size and speed.  One last comment.  While Nick Greisen's time has come, and he should be a quality middle linebacker, he is a young unproven starter and I would have come out of draft day with a player to both push him, and be on hand in case he doesn't develop as projected.

PLAYER/ TEAM NEWS PRIOR TO DRAFT

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Manning 6-4¾, 216 4.90 - - - -
Manning
Mississippi

#1 ranked QB by Jaybird

Len Pasquarelli of ESPN.com reports:  Eli Manning of Mississippi checked in at 6-feet-4 1/2 and 221 pounds (at Combine)
Gil Brandt of NFL.com reports: Manning's workout was scripited by Larry Kennan, the same man who did Drew Henson's workout in Houston. Manning did not run or do any jumping -- he just threw. His targets were current NFL free agents James McKnight and Kevin Lockett. He was very impressive, threw with great velocity and was very accurate with his passes. However, the consensus seemed to be that he was not as accurate as Peyton, who is extremely accurate. It was also said that Manning moves better in person than he does on tape. To no one's surprise, people left this workout feeling that he has the chance to be a franchise QB.
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Snee G 6.02.6, 314 5.07 1.68 4.66 7.75 29 30½" 8-8
Snee
Boston College

#3 ranked OG by Jaybird

Nolan Nawrocki of ProFootballWeekly.com reports: Snee, who was offered scholarships by Wisconsin and Virginia Tech to be a defensive lineman after registering 47 sacks in high school, ultimately decided on Boston College because he liked playing offense. But the junior brings a defensive mentality to the offensive line. He is a tough, nasty, extremely aggressive run blocker who ranks among the top three guards in the draft.
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Torbor DE 6-2 3/8, 254 4.63 - - - 16 - -
Torbor
Auburn

Jaybird: below 4th round

NFLFans.com reports: Torbor is relentless in going after the QB and has excellent speed to be a force in this area. He has good instincts, athleticism,  speed, and very long  arms. He has excellent upside. However, hr is another DE who may find himself either a situational pass rusher or an outside 3-4 LB. He needs to add additional strength and mass and improve his techniques against the run; he is too one dimensional as is.
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Taylor SS 6-0, 199  4.41 4.22 - 6.33 16 34½" 10-1
Wilson
Tennessee

Jaybird: below 4th round

NFLFans.com reports: Wilson is definitely a solid pick if you can get him on day two. Smart player and quick learner. Jumped right into the Volunteers backfield as if he had been the Vols' SS for years. Great senior season.
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Taylor 6-0.6, 208 4.49 - - - - 23 - -
Taylor
Texas A&M

Jaybird: below 4th round

Bryan Dietzler of NFLFans.com reports: Taylor was impressive with 40 times of 4.49 & 4.53 only 5 months after ACL surgery.  Taylor is a hot and cold player who can have a great game one week and a bad one the next. Taylor does posses good size and pretty good speed and can sometimes stretch the defense and make big plays. He is the ability to adjust quickly to the ball and uses his body well to block out defenders. He also has the speed to gain separation from defenders but can sometimes get pushed out of his route. Taylor is also not afraid to go up high to catch the pass and can out jump most defenders.  However, Taylor has a habit of dropping passes when it counts most, but he did improve upon that in his last season with the Aggies. He suffered a knee injury in 2002 but he seems to have gotten over that problem.
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Strojny T 6-7 1/8, 322 5.40 - 4.95 8.43 - - -
Strojny
Duke

Jaybird: below 4th round

Nolan Nawrocki of ProFootballWeekly.com reports: OT Strojny arrived at Duke with a 215-pound bench press, but he has gotten bigger and stronger every year and made huge strides as he has matured physically. He’s very athletic for his size and is rising up draft boards because of his athleticism.
NFLFans.com reports: A good late round pick up for a developmental type player or an excellent undrafted free agent to add to your roster after the draft is completed.
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Hilton DE 6.03.3, 267 4.52 1.59 4.48 7.99 31 36½" 10-3
Hilton
Hampton

#7 ranked DE by Jaybird

NFLFans.com reports: DE Hilton was very impressive workouts at the combine. Stock is rising.
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Lorenzen 6-3 3/8, 288 4.90 4.44 7.08 26" 7-8
Lorenzen
Kentucky

Jaybird: below 4th round

Len Pasquarelli of ESPN.com reports:  Jared Lorenzen, QB, Kentucky: Kentucky quarterback Jared Lorenzen weighed in at a whopping 288 pounds and that isn't good for a guy most scouts felt was only a borderline prospect to begin with. There is no denying Lorenzen's ability to zip the ball in the 18- to 20-yard range but much of his productivity came earlier in his career, when the Wildcats were basically running a run-and-shoot type offense under then-head coach Hal Mumme. The mammoth Lorenzen is a classic streak-shooter, has suspect arm strength on some of the deeper throws, and is given to bouts of petulance. Does he possess some talent? Yeah. Should he have even been invited here? Some scouts think not.
InsideTheLeague.com reports: Kentucky QB Jared Lorenzen did not go through workouts at the NFL Combine, but he did take part in throwing drills. He didn't help his cause, though, as his arm strength was only decent and his weight remains a concern.
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DeLoatch CB-FS 6-1.8, 210 4.55 - - - 11 35" -
DeLoatch
North Car A&T

Jaybird: below 4th round

Eric Edholm of ProFootballWeekly.com reports: Under the radar - FS Curtis DeLoatch, North Carolina A&T — Some scouts project DeLoatch to become a huge (6-2, 214) cornerback on the next level, but others see him as a rangy safety who runs and covers very well in space. The big knock on him is his hitting and run-stopping ability, but his great combination of size, speed and athletic ability is too good for some team picking late to overlook. He also has experience returning punts.
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Davis (WR) 6-3, 187  4.40 - 4.29 11.97 7.17 - 36" 9-7

TEAM NEWS/NEEDS PRIOR TO THE DRAFT

Jay Goldberg of 90FootballLinks.NET reports: 
major need         need position         possible need, depth needed    no real need
Key UFA: Bober C, Griffin DT, Washington DE, Short LB, Jones LB, Brown CB
Key RFA: Peterson  CB (3rd round), Palmer QB (5th round)
NOTE - RFA COMPENSATION AT MINIMUM TENDER
TRANSACTIONS: Washington resigned
QB: Time for the Giants to look for their QB of the future as Palmer doesn't appear to be the answer.  Collins is good but he has to be better than last year to warrant carrying his cap figure.
RB: Barber is not the type of running back Coughlin usually likes.  Dayne is a small back in a big-back's body.  That is why he hasn't seen the field.
WR: Toomer and Hilliard are fine.  Carter needs to stay healthy.  He has good speed and potential.  The Giants drafted two players late last year that look good in Tyree and Ponder.
TE: Shockey!  Enough said.  However, Shiancoe will be a good player too.
OL: Big, big, big need area.  Between injuries and inferior talent the offensive line was a disaster for the Giants last year.  Even their better players on the line are replaceable (i.e. no threat for a Pro Bowl in the near future).
DL: Is the cup half-full or half-empty?  Will Umenyiora and Joseph develop in 2004?  Should the team resign the inconsistent, but tremendously talented, Griffin?  The knowns are: Strahan is a stud, Holmes is efficient and Hamilton is retiring.
LB: Surprisingly for a New York Giant team with a great tradition of linebackers, this is a position in more disarray than one might think.  Barrow had a solid season, but how long can he continue at his current pace?   Jones and Short are UFAs and both are okay but replaceable, although Short shows  promise. 
DB: If the two Wills (Allen and Peterson) return healthy, cornerback is the strength of this team.  Also, Walker quietly had a good season for a rookie.  Safety is another story.  Stoutmire is okay but replaceable, and Williams has not developed into the stud at strong safety as predicted.
ST: The Giants kickers are just okay, but they may not be able to find better; their return game needs an upgrade.  Mitchell was a disappointment, however, his replacement may already be on the roster (Delvin Joyce).

ProFootballWeekly.com reports: Don’t lock in Iowa OT Robert Gallery as the fourth overall pick in the draft just yet. Although a reliable offensive lineman is at the top of the Giants’ wish list, New York might consider trading down if the right offer is there, although that scenario appears unlikely unless one of the two top QB prospects (Mississippi’s Eli Manning or Miami (Ohio)’s Ben Roethlisberger) or WR Larry Fitzgerald falls to that spot. One source close to the team thinks the Giants will sign at least two free-agent linemen, opening up the possibility that the team could go after a playmaking linebacker, a pass rusher to deflect some of the attention away from DE Michael Strahan or even a power running back in light of Tiki Barber fumbling problems, which made him less dependable as a fourth-quarter runner.
USAToday.com reports: The Giants, by virtue of a dismal 4-12 record, will draft in the fourth overall slot. They were tied with three other teams at that record — San Diego, Oakland and Arizona — but their overall opponents' won-lost percentage placed them last among the quartet.  They would be interested in one of the two blue-chip quarterbacks, but there is a feeling both Eli Manning and Ben Roethlisberger will be gone. They have expressed an interest in Iowa offensive tackle Robert Gallery, Miami (Fla.) safety Sean Taylor and Oklahoma defensive tackle Tommie Harris. They have also indicated they might be willing to listen to trade offers involving that fourth overall position, but wouldn't want to slide too far down and would demand a second round pick as the bonus.
www.nyfootballdigest.com reports: The New York Giants were subject of wild trade rumors this week. The Giants were said to be dangling QB Kerry Collins in front of Marty Schottenheimer's face in exchange for the overall number one pick in this year's draft. The rumor went on to say Ole' Miss. QB Eli Manning was the obvious target if Collins is dealt. While we do not feel this rumor has any real teeth, we are keeping our eye on the situation.
Len Pasquarelli of NFL.com reports: The Chargers will listen to trade offers and the bet here remains that the New York Giants who privately gush over Manning, make a big-time play to try to get to the top of the draft.

 

2003 COLLEGE DRAFT

N.Y. Giants
Rd Sel# Player Pos. Ht. Wt. School
1 25 Joseph, William DT 6-5 308 Miami (Fla.)
2 56 Umenyiora, Osi DE 6-3 279 Troy State
3 91 Shiancoe, Vishante TE 6-4 251 Morgan State
4 123 Babers, Roderick CB 5-9 192 Texas
5 160 Diehl, David G 6-6 310 Illinois
6 199 Ponder, Willie WR 6-0 205 Southeast Missouri State
6 207 Walker, Frank CB 5-11 202 Tuskegee
6 211 Tyree, David WR 6-1 197 Syracuse
7 240 Drake, Charles FS 6-1 205 Michigan
7 249 Lucier, Wayne C 6-4 301 Colorado
7 255 Walter, Kevin WR 6-4 221 Eastern Michigan
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2003 COLLEGE DRAFT REPORT CARD

The Giants got lucky when their man fell to them in round one.  Joseph fills a need and has the potential to be a star in the NFL.  I identified Umenyiora as my sleeper at defensive end.  The Giants made me look bad since second-rounders can not really be classified as sleepers, but they also made me look good by making him a second-rounder.  Obviously, I liked this pick.  Shiancoe gives the Giants a second tight end who can stretch the field and make big plays down field.  Babers will compete with Ralph Brown and Kato Serwanga for third corner.  Diehl is a project but has the tools.  Ponder is a real sleeper.  He will make the battle for back-up receiver spots for the Giants very interesting.  I think Ponder will win one of those spots.  Walker is another interesting selection.  He is a great athlete.  He is very fast.  He is strong.  He can be the second coming of Jason Sehorn.  I loved the Giants' selections of Ponder and Walker in the sixth round.  They are gambling on getting playmakers rather than settling for more-sure bench/role-player types.  With the receivers on the Giants' roster, Tryee will find it difficult to make the team.  Gotta love the Drake (couldn't resist that Seinfeld line).  Actually, Drake hits like a truck and will be an excellent special teams player.  He could also grow into a NFL-caliber strong safety in time.  Lucier was a seventh-round steal.  He won't be a Pro Bowler, but he will be a solid starter/top-notch reserve.  Walter is the type of player teams like to keep on their roster.  He is a tireless worker and fearless on the field.  However, the Giants are suddenly deep at receiver so Walter has his work cut out for him.  But, he's a kid it's hard to bet against.
Joseph Len Pasquarelli of ESPN.com reports: Most college scouts agree that the 2003 draft figures to continue a trend of being deep at the defensive tackle position. The last two drafts produced 10 first-round defensive tackles and scouts feel there are a dozen prospects in 2003 who should contribute for teams as rookies. But don't ask the scouts to rate the defensive tackles because, it seems, everyone has assessed the pool differently. There is a consensus top five group, but no one seems to have them in the same order. One tackle who seems to be sliding a bit is William Joseph of Miami. A riser: Dewayne Robertson of Kentucky, an underclass entry, but a guy who this week ran in the 4.7s for his personal trainer while weighing in the 315-pound range
Gil Brandt reports William Joseph, DL, Miami, Fla., lifted 29 times at the combine, a very good number.
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Len Pasquarelli of ESPN.com reports, DT William Joseph (Miami), during Miami’s Pro Day on Thursday, was clocked at 5.16-5.20 in the 40-yard dash and had a 30” vertical jump. (AllProScouting had a 4.97-5.04 forty at pro day).
Umenyiora WORKOUT NUMBERS Matt Gambill of AllProScouting.com reports, Osi Umenyiora-DE pro day numbers: 6031, 278, 4.68 forty, 38"  Vertical, 9'9" Broad Jump, 4.33 short shuttle, 24 reps
Shiancoe ProFootballWeekly.com reports: One NFC West scout said he was greatly disappointed to see Morgan State TE Vishante Shiancoe’s name on the list of attendees at the Combine. A lesser-known talent, Shiancoe (6-4 ¼, 251) is a physical specimen. Now that all 32 teams have seen him firsthand, the secret is out. Shiancoe has been in Indianapolis for a month, meeting several times a week with a sports psychologist and personal trainer Shane White. It is already paying off. Shiancoe was tops in his group with 28 reps of 225 pounds on the bench press, and he said that is not his strong suit. Nope, that comes when he runs the 40-yard dash Sunday. “I fully expect to get a 4.55 or a 4.5,” he said. His best time was a 4.67 nearly four weeks ago.
Draft2003.com reports, Vishante Shiancoe, Morgan State -- Ran 4.68 in the 40... at 6-foot-4, 251 pounds... did 28 reps of 225 pounds... improving blocker with downfield pass-catching potential... also has three Pro Days to impress scouts...
Babers PproFootballWeekly.com reports, When asked where he might be taken or what he has heard about his draft status, Texas CB Rod Babers said, "Not the slightest idea. I have no clue. I have heard a lot of things, and it’s a little frustrating, but all I can do is prove I am worth taking (high)." An NFC West scout gave a better idea as to where Babers might go: "I think he is a first-day guy. He has been a little lost in the shuffle lately … but I think he has good potential as a third (corner) as a rookie."
Gil Brandt of NFL.com reports, Babers did not work out at the Pro Day, but did well at the Combine. He did the position drills for the scouts on hand. He measured up at 5-foot-8¾ and 192 pounds in Indianapolis.
Diehl WORKOUT NUMBERS  Matt Gambill of AllProScouting.com reports, David Og, Diehl pro day numbers: 27 reps, 5.15 and 5.19 forty
Tyree WORKOUT NUMBERS  Gil Brandt of NFL.com reports, Tyree was 6-0 7/8, 200 pounds, and ran the 40 for times of 4.59 and 4.53. He had a vertical of 30½ inches, a long of 10-0, a short shuttle of 4.46 and a three-cone drill of 7.25. Here is a guy who opened eyes -- he's been a very good kick blocker.
Drake WORKOUT NUMBERS Gil Brandt of NFL.com reports, SS Charles Drake averaged 4.44 for his 40s and ran a 4.39 short shuttle and 7.11 in the three-cone drill. He had a 32&$189;-inch vertical jump and a 9-foot-7 long jump.
Lucier WORKOUT NUMBERS  Matt Gambill of AllProScouting.com reports, Wayne Lucier-C, 6032, 298, 20 reps, 5.26 forty, 9 3/8" arm, 33 1/2" arm

 

 2002 COLLEGE DRAFT

GRADE : C


Shockey makes sense at number one if you plan to use your TE like KC uses Gonzalez.  A TE who catches around 70 balls for 900 yards is worth a pick this high.  However, 50 catches for 700 yards is not.  will the Giants use Shockey enough for him to get the better stats?  Carter was a good pick in round two.  He is fast and can catch.  However, I personally would have liked Cliff Russell in this spot.  Hatch needs some developing but has potential.  ILB Griesen and WR Jones could also contribute.


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Rd Sel# Player Pos. Ht. Wt. School
1 14 Shockey, Jeremy TE 6-5 255 Miami (Fla.)
2 46 Carter, Tim WR 6-0 190 Auburn
3 78 Hatch, Jeff C 6-6 307 Pennsylvania
5 152 Greisen, Nick ILB 6-1 233 Wisconsin
6 188 Mallard, Wesly SS 6-2 221 Oregon
7 226 Jones, Daryl WR 5-9 180 Miami (Fla.)
7 245 Monk, Quincy OLB 6-3 242 North Carolina

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